Thursday, October 18, 2018

Parable vote results

The results were 277 for, 3 against adding the Lord's parable to the T&C.  Here is a link to the official results:

Saturday, October 13, 2018

Poll: Section 176

To participate in voting about the adoption of the Lord's answer to our Statement of Principles in to the T&C, click:

Wednesday, October 10, 2018

Should we adopt the Lord's answer regarding our Statement of Principles?

We need to decide whether we will include the following answer from the Lord regarding our Statement of Principles in the Teachings and Commandments as a new section (176):

Revelation given in response to our adopted Statement of Principles, 4 October 2018, through Denver Snuffer.

1 You  ask  on  behalf  of  my  people,  and  therefore  I  answer  my  people.  Hear,  therefore,  my words:
2 What  have  you  learned? What ought you to have learned? Consider this:

3 A master called his servants and told them, I send you to a far off land where there is no stone, and command you to there build me a house. When you are done, send me word and I will come there to dwell. All his servants were faithful to their master and obeyed.
4 Some reasoned among themselves that their master dwelt in a stone house, and because this far off land had no stone, they ought gather and take stone with them. Others reasoned among themselves that because the master said there was no stone, there must be trees, and therefore brought axes and tools to build a wooden house. And yet others reasoned among themselves that they should go and see the place their master had chosen, not knowing beforehand what would be there.
5 The first group gathered stones as they traveled, with great difficulty in their chosen labor. The second group went with haste to the place, but found no trees with which to build a wooden house, and their tools were of no use. Their plans having failed, they remembered their fellow servants who gathered stones for a stone house and returned to join their labor. Returning, they met the group planning only to go to the place and do as their master commanded. Those returning said, We have seen the place. There is no stone and no trees there with which to build a house. We return to help gather stones. Come with us. Those going replied, Not so. We will see for ourselves the place the master has chosen and then obey his command. Those returning said, You are foolish, for the master said: There is no stone there, and therefore must want us to bring stone.
6 The servants departed, one to see the site chosen by the master, and the other to join those gathering stone. When the servants arrived at the site, they too saw there was no stone for a stone house, neither was there wood for a wooden house. They pondered why their master should choose such a place for his house. Looking about they saw the place was high and lifted up, as if the whole world could be seen from the wondrous place. An approaching enemy could be spied from a long distance. They said, Surely the master has chosen a place of safety, peace, and beauty. Our master was wise in choosing this spot. He must also have been wise in commanding we build here his house. What are we to do? Ought we also labor to bring the distant stone?
7 But among these servants, some began to prepare the ground, clearing a place to build the house. As they moved away the grass and brush, they found there was clay suitable to make bricks with which to build a house. They told their companions, See, there is clay here. Let us make bricks and build the master a house from what we have found here on his chosen spot. And so they made bricks -- laboring, digging, shaping, and drying. These servants reasoned among themselves that the labor would be better done if their fellow servants joined them. They sent messengers to those laboring to bring stone.
8 The messengers told their weary, fellow servants -- now moving a great mound of rock -- that while they were still distant from the place chosen by their master, work on his house had begun. They said, Come now quickly with us, for we have found clay to make bricks at the place the master has chosen, and with you we can accomplish what the master commanded. Many were willing, and some were offended, and some wanted to stop all effort, and return to their master and tell him his command was too great. They argued among themselves, and for a moment forgot their master’s command, and forgot those who were laboring to make bricks from clay at the place the master had chosen.
9 After a season of quarreling and disputing, some said, We have neglected our master’s command long enough. We go to help make bricks of clay to build our master’s house at the place he has commanded. Seeing some depart, those who remained called for all to reason together because the labor was hard and the loss of even a few made moving stones even more difficult. Soon, many others went to join in making bricks. A few others returned to complain to the master. Another few continued to move the stones with little hope to complete their labor to build their master a stone house such as he had before.
10 When the house of brick was complete, all the servants returned to tell their master as they were commanded. Returning, they came upon the place where those few remained faithfully moving stone. Many had compassion on their fellow servants and began a new labor with them. A messenger was sent to tell the master his house was finished. Those who had compassion said, The master’s house is finished. What need is there for further labor to carry stone for the house? Let us not waste the effort of our fellow servants who have labored hardest, and we will put the stones to good use.
11 Hearing the work was complete, the master, with his household, departed for the new house. On the way, they found the pathway improved by stones laid to pave the way. The master was pleased, and said, I asked you build a house at the spot I had chosen, and this you have now faithfully done. But you have also made a stone road in place of the old pathway to a place where there is no stone to use. Well done my faithful servants, for all of you have labored to do as I have commanded, and proven your faithfulness. I will accept the house and the road, that none of your labor be lost.

12 I ask again, What have you learned? What ought you to have learned?
13 I say to you that there is need for but one house, and I accept the statement you have adopted, and approve it as your statement to be added. But I say again, there was honor in the labor of others. Whereas I look upon the heart and see faithful service, many among you do not look at, nor see, nor value what I, the Lord, love in the hearts of my people. As I have said before, I say again: Love one another, labor willingly alongside each other. Learn what you ought, and when I ask you to labor, do so wisely, even if you know not beforehand what you will find. I do not ask what you cannot do. Trust my words and proceed always in faith, believing that with me all things are possible. All who have been faithful are mine.

A poll will be posted for all to choose. The poll will run from Sunday, Oct 14 through Wednesday Oct 17. A link to that poll will be posted on this blog at the start of the poll. Please vote only once.

Sunday, October 7, 2018


Weve noticed a few people struggling to cite the Lectures on Faith, Joseph Smith History, Book of Abraham, and Testimony of St. John. Here's what we imagined when we structured them for citation:

Though each of them is a section within the T&C, those section numbers are just place holders. Each should be cited as it's own "book":

Lectures on Faith (or LoF) 2:104 (meaning lecture 2, paragraph 104)
Abraham (or Abr.) 4:6
Joseph Smith History (or JSH) 5:2 (meaning Joseph Smith History, part 5, paragraph 2)
Testimony of St. John (or TSJ) 8:9

With only 4 section numbers to remember, this seemed to be the cleanest approach.

Hope this helps.

Saturday, October 6, 2018

Book of Mormon - Compact Size

Some have requested a stand-alone Book of Mormon to share with others, or simply to be less obvious. We have formatted one like we did with the Large Print version. This new compact version measures 5.25" x 8" and has 550 pages - that's the best we could do. It will be available on Amazon, we hope, as of Monday the 8th... It's now live.

NOTE: If Amazon shows that one of the books is OUT OF STOCK or does not give a price for a NEW copy, that simply means we are in the process of uploading and approving an update that is adding to or fixing the current version. It will be available again within 24 hours.

Thursday, October 4, 2018


The Lord has given an answer with regards to the adoption of a statement of principles by this people. It can be found here. He has accepted our statement.

We have a living canon of scriptures. We therefore have a need to determine how our scriptures are to grow. A temporary solution is given below, but we need to formalize some sort of process. The next general conference will include the opportunity to have such discussions. Until then, the process given below will only function as a temporary solution.

It is easy to assume that a revelation from the Lord (see Part 3) would automatically be added to the T&C. However, no one, whether Chris Hamill, or the disbanded scriptures committee, or even Denver himself, has the authority to simply add it. That permission must come from the voice of the people. And there are two steps involved in the process: preparing it for the T&C, and formal adoption of the revelation as scripture.

The first step can be accomplished only after permission is given. The simplest and quickest means would be to poll this people online, as we have already done several times, including for the statement of principles. With the finalization of the text for the T&C likely being done by the end of this year, it would be useful to include this new revelation in the text. An online poll would allow for that.

The second step requires the formal adoption of the revelation as scripture. Such would be appropriate in the next general conference. An overwhelmingly positive response to the poll would indicate that the revelation will likely be adopted as scripture and therefore would be safe to include in the finalized T&C text.

By way of update, we hope to have both the New Testament and the T&C texts ready by the end of the year. That is a HOPE, not an expectation. We also have someone working on ebook versions of all of the scriptures that will be downloadable for free, though Kindle versions will also be made available. And a smaller print, stand-alone version of the Book of Mormon has been requested for sharing with others. That should be available by the end of the week on Amazon.

Tuesday, October 2, 2018


The Lots document was accepted and sustained as a statement of principles by this people, to be printed in the scriptures. As the original assignment was to write a replacement for D&C 20, this statement will therefore become a section in the T&C. McKay has asked Denver to join with those who are asking the Lord for His approval.